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Old Feb 11, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #21
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I really think it's unfair that the beetle be given only to the top 100 spots because the same name doesn't get the beetle for multiple spots, which I find fair, what I find unfair is the fact that that same name can be in the top 100 multiple times, therefore taking up spots that other players could have but don't. I think that either the prize should be given to the top 100 racers, racers meaning people, as in different people, as in different accounts, not top 100 racers as in the first 100 spots as there are NOT 100 racers/people/accounts in those spots, or ONLY the racer's/person's/account's highest score appear on the board so that that person's name only appears once so that the top 100 spots are actually different people so that the top 100 racers actually get the prize so that 100 beetles are being given out as planned. Does that make sense? Not does that makes sense as in do you also think it's fair, but as in do you understand what I'm saying? Do you get my point? And no, I was never even on the leaderboard, so the top 100 thing wouldn't apply to me by far, and neither was anyone I know, it's just how I think it should be and how I think it fair to everyone else.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #22
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I really think it's unfair that the beetle be given only to the top 100 spots because the same name doesn't get the beetle for multiple spots, which I find fair, what I find unfair is the fact that that same name can be in the top 100 multiple times, therefore taking up spots that other players could have but don't. I think that either the prize should be given to the top 100 racers, racers meaning people, as in different people, as in different accounts, not top 100 racers as in the first 100 spots as there are NOT 100 racers/people/accounts in those spots, or ONLY the racer's/person's/account's highest score appear on the board so that that person's name only appears once so that the top 100 spots are actually different people so that the top 100 racers actually get the prize so that 100 beetles are being given out as planned. Does that make sense? Not does that makes sense as in do you also think it's fair, but as in do you understand what I'm saying? Do you get my point? And no, I was never even on the leaderboard, so the top 100 thing wouldn't apply to me by far, and neither was anyone I know, it's just how I think it should be and how I think it fair to everyone else.
Agreed! Signed! And a shame that ANet is not able to get a basic list to correctly present winners. No, the list should have shown your best time, nothing else. How could that list be considered to be a good idea?

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #23
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The only thing those cheaters deserve is a BAN!

But no, they get free cash!
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26   #24
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Trust me nobody cheated i can get a 472 without any superoller beetles, its as someone said 80% luck with getting an echo superbeetle skill and 20% knowing were to use your skills.

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #25
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Yeah and when asked to provide a video they all refuse, because there is some trick we shouldn't know about. When asking the people, they say there's a a trick or how they 'figured something out', but they obviously can't tell you how it works, but soon after 'figuring this out' they improve their score by 20k. Yeah right.

Where have we heard those excuses before? Mallyx Citadel anyone? Glitch, expoit, cheat, whatever you want to call it, THAT is what's been figured out.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33   #26
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Yeah and when asked to provide a video they all refuse, because there is some trick we shouldn't know about. When asking the people, they say there's a a trick or how they 'figured something out', but they obviously can't tell you how it works, but soon after 'figuring this out' they improve their score by 20k. Yeah right.

Where have we heard those excuses before? Mallyx Citadel anyone? Glitch, expoit, cheat, whatever you want to call it, THAT is what's been figured out.
Regardless of what your asking it isint the case this time, there is no glitch and no cheating involved its pure dumb luck with a touch of skill to get into the top 100, the only negative about the whole rollerbeetle thing was that they never gave out 100 prizes just over 50 i believe due to the double or triple times done by the same players, other then that the races and the racers did not cheat.

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Edit; Its also rather pointless to talk about this now since the event is finished and there is no racing anymore.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #27
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Yeah just dumb luck, and we're supposed to believe that?

Dumb luck made the same persons win over half the spots?

How many people race? Now, if it was just luck, the odds for the same people winning all the time are smaller then like winning the lottery five times in a row.

Of course noone posts a vid and noone sais anything on how they do it, because we all know that they're exploiting and they don't want the rest of the people to know how to do it. Hey, they were just lucky to get in there all the time, you weren't lucky enough to get in the top 100. Suuuure.

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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #28
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Regardless of what your asking it isint the case this time, there is no glitch and no cheating involved its pure dumb luck with a touch of skill to get into the top 100, the only negative about the whole rollerbeetle thing was that they never gave out 100 prizes just over 50 i believe due to the double or triple times done by the same players, other then that the races and the racers did not cheat.

Pol

Edit; Its also rather pointless to talk about this now since the event is finished and there is no racing anymore.
Polgara, if it's so pointless for you to talk about it, but it's not pointless to us. Well, mind as well just tell us the techniques. If you really want to disprove all the hacking accusations and the doubters, there's no better way than to just tell the truth.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #29
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Yeah just dumb luck, and we're supposed to believe that?

Dumb luck made the same persons win over half the spots?

How many people race? Now, if it was just luck, the odds for the same people winning all the time are smaller then like winning the lottery five times in a row.

Of course noone posts a vid and noone sais anything on how they do it, because we all know that they're exploiting and they don't want the rest of the people to know how to do it. Hey, they were just lucky to get in there all the time, you weren't lucky enough to get in the top 100. Suuuure.
It's not just dumb luck, in the "Oh I got a SRB out of every box" sense. You have to know how to use what you get. The luck is in getting the things you need to make a top 100 score (SRB, and maybe an echo).

Also, nobody "won over half the spots." There were almost 60 unique winners, and the remaining 40 duplicates are split up between several people.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #30
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It's not just dumb luck, in the "Oh I got a SRB out of every box" sense. You have to know how to use what you get. The luck is in getting the things you need to make a top 100 score (SRB, and maybe an echo).

Also, nobody "won over half the spots." There were almost 60 unique winners, and the remaining 40 duplicates are split up between several people.
Even still, does that seem fair to you? Over 40 duplicates on a so called top 100 racers list? It's absurd. The facts are Anet should have (and still should try to) make it the top 100 unique accounts that get prizes.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #31
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The odds are for the same people winning are smaller than winning the lottery? Did you just make that up? You just lack skill and obviously didn't put any effort into practising, because it's just logic that they obviously did practise alot, and figured out the best technique for winning. And if you read the other threads you will see, that we have posted "tricks and tips" for how to get a higher score. You make yourself sound like you expected to win your first try ^^
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #32
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Even still, does that seem fair to you? Over 40 duplicates on a so called top 100 racers list? It's absurd. The facts are Anet should have (and still should try to) make it the top 100 unique accounts that get prizes.
No, it doesn't seem fair at all. I hope they can fix it before the next time Rollerbeetles are available in an event. I was only correcting Shakkara's claim that "the same persons win over half the spots."
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #33
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The odds are for the same people winning are smaller than winning the lottery? Did you just make that up? You just lack skill and obviously didn't put any effort into practising, because it's just logic that they obviously did practise alot, and figured out the best technique for winning. And if you read the other threads you will see, that we have posted "tricks and tips" for how to get a higher score. You make yourself sound like you expected to win your first try ^^
I was replying to this person that all that was required to get a top 100 spot was 'dumb luck', which it obviously is NOT.

And yeah, I did practice a LOT this year and past events too, and I did get high scores but nothing like the 470+ stuff they have, even WITH 4 super rollerbeetles and good skill timing.
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #34
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Good times man. Good times.

For future reference, we plan on meeting with more beetle holders and getting a larger population of beetles all at 1 gathering ^.^


Gimme a shout if you do ... i have a Beetle aswell




(as a note) dont bother spamming me with WTB requests cause mine is definately not for sale
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07   #35
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Gimme a shout if you do ... i have a Beetle aswell
Ditto here, IGN "Linthel Ancalimar"

Not planning to sell.

Though, isn't it 20 minis max in a district or something?
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #36
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I was replying to this person that all that was required to get a top 100 spot was 'dumb luck', which it obviously is NOT.

And yeah, I did practice a LOT this year and past events too, and I did get high scores but nothing like the 470+ stuff they have, even WITH 4 super rollerbeetles and good skill timing.
well then you got kd 5 times I guess cO

I run without SRB about 466 +-

and my best was 475 with echo an beetle, and I used 1 skill wrong, thats why it wasnt better.

The 476-478 times are possible, but I dont think that yuri gets every single round a SRB to top hi score.

I guess Oujira Board and Yuri and maybe roflcopter know anything we doesnt know.

But the rest is simply luclk (srb in 1 of those 2 boses) and good driver skill
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #37
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....All the CHEATER posts aside...

Congrats on the Bugs guys
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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #38
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where was this and why was I not invited? shame on you ekelon

EDIT: To all those accusing us of "cheating" most people in the top 100 raced almost all weekend
and know exactly when to use what skills to get the most benefit out of them. There is no
"Omg 1337 roll3r h4x"

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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #39
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This thread has demonstrated one thing: Most people have the mindset of "If I can't do it, it can't be done. And if someone did do it, they must have cheated"

ANet won't give out extremely valuable minis if it's easily attainable by everybody. Obviously, cracking the 475k mark requires a lot of skill that goes beyond the simple tactics most people employ. Good job to those in the top 100. I look forward to getting my own mini greased lightning the next time SB racing comes along
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Yeah and when asked to provide a video they all refuse, because there is some trick we shouldn't know about. When asking the people, they say there's a a trick or how they 'figured something out', but they obviously can't tell you how it works, but soon after 'figuring this out' they improve their score by 20k. Yeah right.

Where have we heard those excuses before? Mallyx Citadel anyone? Glitch, expoit, cheat, whatever you want to call it, THAT is what's been figured out.
maybe they don't want to make a video because who would want to help all the pompous dicks like you on guru? i know i sure as hell wouldnt. stop crying. theyre better at RB than you are. move on
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